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_MG_6562I recently visited Wittenberg where Martin Luther and Philipp Melanchton worked together. Posters are found in the whole city center. “Luther 2017, 500 years of Reformation.” Wittenberg is getting prepared by remodeling and gardening. It looks like a big happening will take place. There are also other posters there, saying: “Theme year 2014: REFORMATION AND POLITICS.” This turned out to be even more interesting than I thought.

In front of the town hall, a big globe is placed, where the whole world is in red color – The color of reformation and revolution. In the middle of the globe, it says: “Reformation 2017”. Indeed preparations are being made for something big. In 2017, the protestant reformation celebrates 500 years.

From Counter-Reformation to Co-Reformation
The rumors say that Pope Francis will come to Wittenberg during this celebration. Why would the Pope visit Wittenberg – the start and center of reformation, where Martin Luther in 1517 put up the 95 thesis?

The highest representative of German Protestantism: Nikolaus Schneider, Chairman of the Council of the Evangelical Church in Germany (EKD) met personally with Pope Francis to invite him to the anniversary. During this meeting, the Pope “underlined how important it is for him that we, as churches, walk together on the path of testifying the faith in this world.” Schneider said that the conversations with the Pope and the Vatican, contributed to build trust. 1
Francis has not yet made the decision public whether he has accepted or not.

During the 1540’s, a Counter-Reformation started by the Catholic Church in response to the protestant reformation. But the last decades are proving things have drastically changed.

“One could almost say that the Catholic Church has set out from the path of the Counter-Reformation onto that of the Co-Reformation.” says Gerhard Feige to Luther2017.de. He is a Catholic ecumenical officer Bishop, in Magdeburg, Germany. 2

A reconciliation process started years ago between Catholics and Protestant Christians. Feige sees evidence for this to develop during the coming years.

“- I would appreciate if this were not only happening in the leadership of the churches.”. The article goes on to say: “But everybody must change and get on the move. It remains to be clarified how much unity is necessary.” 2

The Luther Garden – A global ecumenical network
Another exciting preparation in Wittenberg is the “Luther Garden”, arranged by the Lutheran World Foundation and United Evangelical Lutheran Church of Germany.
Trees are being planted here. The goal is to have 500 trees – one for each year of reformation.

_MG_6739In the middle of the garden we find a formation of the Luther Rose, which is the symbol of Luther’s faith and theology. Here are five trees, one in each petal. From there, seven paths are symbolically lead out to the world. In this garden we find trees from every continent, planted by churches and denominations from all over the world, creating a global ecumenical network. 6
I looked at every single tree in this garden, and there is a great variety of churches and countries. Currently they have around 230 trees, from all over the world, planted by different churches. Guess which tree is number one, found in the Luther Rose formation, in the middle of the park? – The Catholic Church! Following we find the Orthodox Church, the Anglican Communion, World Alliance of Reformed Churches, and the World Methodist Council as number five.


A responsible for Concept and Design of Luther Garden says in a project movie:

“I hope this garden will one day grow into a park. A park in which people can gather under the trees, a park that grows together, just as our Christian World Religion should grow together one day.” 3

More Steps to Church Unity
In 2014 at a Charismatic Evangelical Leadership Conference hosted by Kenneth Copeland, Tony Palmer, an anglican bishop said: “The protest is over”, and encouraged to unity with the Catholic Church. The audience of many charismatic Christian leaders seemed to embrace this message.

While some Protestant Churches have stopped protesting, what does the Catholic Church say?

On their website, vatican.va, there is an article called From Conflict to Communion, written together with Lutherans, talking about how they successfully shall unite. 4

The Catholic Church and Lutheran Church signed a Joint declaration on the doctrine of justification, in 1999, and this is an attempt to narrow the theological divide between the two faiths. 5
It is important to note that Luther did not only discover justification by faith, as the discussion seems to be about – there were 95 thesis.

“The awareness is dawning on Lutherans and Catholics that the struggle of the sixteenth century is over. The reasons for mutually condemning each other’s faith have fallen by the wayside. Thus, Lutherans and Catholics identify five imperatives as they commemorate 2017 together.”

“In 2017, we must confess openly that we have been guilty before Christ of damaging the unity of the church. This commemorative year presents us with two challenges: the purification and healing of memories, and the restoration of Christian unity in accordance with the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ (Eph 4:4–6).”
They also invite all Christians to study this report open-mindedly and critically, and to come along “the way to a deeper communion of all Christians.” 4

It is clear that 2017 marks an interesting year for the Catholic Church. First of all the Catholics will commemorate the 500th anniversary of the beginning of the Reformation. Secondly, it marks fifty years of Lutheran–Roman Catholic dialogue. 4

Town Hall of Wittenberg

Town Hall of Wittenberg

The World has Started to Wonder…
Luther and many other reformers embraced the idea that the Papacy is the antichrist. Many protestant denominations used to believe this. If you ask Christians today who the antichrist is, there is generally no clear meaning about it. The characteristics of antichrist found in the Bible, only fit one kingdom: The Papacy. (See Daniel 7 And Revelation 13). However, there are still sincere believers in this system, that live up to the light they have. We are not talking about people, but about the system.

As prophesied in Revelation 13:3, the deadly wound is getting healed. The healing of a wound takes time, but it is sure on a good way to restoration, and the world has started to wonder “after the beast”. Since Pope Francis was elected, he quickly got acknowledged internationally. In media, we find headlines such as:

  • “Can Pope Francis heal the deep divisions in Christianity?”
  • “Francis continues to take the world by storm.”
  • “Pope Francis is only leader respected enough to end today’s wars.”

…Who like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?” (Revelation 13:4) Pope Francis has taken a role as peace advocate in many conflicts: Between Jews and Muslims, USA and Cuba, and the harassments done by ISIS.

Another headline in media recently has been: “Pope calls for end to fundamentalism.”, and that with good reasons of course. But soon, God’s people will be the ones looked upon as the fundamentalists and rebellions, because they refuse to worship the beast and his image. Following, a death penalty will threaten this group.

Barack Obama called Pope Francis “A moral leader in word and deed”, followed by an interesting acknowledgment, as Time Magazine listed world’s most influential people of the year. 7

Time to Wake Up, and Speak Up
Wittenberg is getting prepared for the celebration of the reformation anniversary. The mottos for the two next years are:

  • “Reformation – Image and Bible” (2015)
  • “Reformation and One World” (2016)

Anyone else thinking about Revelation 13?

Martin Luther's Pulpit

Martin Luther’s Pulpit

The message of the book of Revelation for us all is: Choose who you want to belong to. One group will be faithful to the beast, a false system of worship. The other group will be faithful to God and will keep all His commandments. There are hard times ahead if you want to be on God’s side. Standing up for God will lead to great persecution. Let us watch, pray and work, as we behold Christ our Redeemer.

If we forget to protest, we forget our message. We are called to “protest” by sharing the three angels messages (Revelation 14), lifting up Christ and the Truth. God will have His people in false systems, until we do our job to call them out. Ekklesia, a greek word used in the Bible for Church, means called out. 8 God wants to call out His people, into His kingdom. He has chosen us, His Church, to call them out. This has to be done with a Christ-centered, Biblical message, and lives transformed by the righteousness of Christ.

The Roman Church now presents a fair front to the world, covering with apologies her record of horrible cruelties. She has clothed herself in Christlike garments; but she is unchanged. Every principle of the papacy that existed in past ages exists today. The doctrines devised in the darkest ages are still held. Let none deceive themselves. The papacy that Protestants are now so ready to honor is the same that ruled the world in the days of the Reformation, when men of God stood up, at the peril of their lives, to expose her iniquity. She possesses the same pride and arrogant assumption that lorded it over kings and princes, and claimed the prerogatives of God. Her spirit is no less cruel and despotic now than when she crushed out human liberty and slew the saints of the Most High. {GC 571.1} 9
Let’s not sleep, friends, but rather see the reality and take responsibility to deliver the message of the everlasting gospel.

Do you want to be faithful to God? Is it your wish to wake up and speak up?

The world needs to hear God’s last message. Will you deliver it?
Jesus is coming soon.

Christian Hjortland

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1. http://www.luther2017.de/en/24479/evangelical-church-germany-invites-pope-francis-reformation-anniversary?contid=24617
2. http://www.luther2017.de/en/23547/ecumenical-officer-bishop-catholic-church-can-join-little-bit-celebration-reformation-annivers?contid=24617
3. http://luthergarten.de/welcome.html
4. http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/lutheran-fed-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_2013_dal-conflitto-alla-comunione_en.html
5. http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html
6. http://luthergarten.de/english-vision-background.html
7. www.time.com/70826/pope-francis-2014-time-100
8. http://biblehub.com/greek/1577.htm
9. White, Ellen, The Great Controversy, Page 571

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  • Alphonso Hawkins Jr.

    “Stealthily and
    unsuspectedly she is strengthening her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to strike. All that she desires is vantage ground, and this is already being given her. We shall soon see and feel what
    the purpose of the Roman element is.” G.C. pg. 581.3

    • Very fitting! We need to be on our guard. The only way to stay safe is to keep our eyes fixed on Christ! He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Jesus said:
      “If you love me, keep my commandments.” (John 14:15)

    • Very fitting! We need to be on our guard. The only way to stay safe is to keep our eyes fixed on Christ! He is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Jesus said:
      “If you love me, keep my commandments.” (John 14:15)

      • Alphonso Hawkins Jr.

        Amen! Keep the faith, maranatha.

      • Ed Garcia

        so true my friend and stick to God’s true word (the Bible) . The end is very near, once this uniting is accomplished with the protestant churches then the next phase will be spiritualism; after that then the Sunday law will surface (rev 13:12 key words there is “worship the first beast”). It is going to come down to the day we worship; you are not a true commandment keeper unless you keep all ten commandments . stay strong my friend, I am praying for more people like you to get God’s word out.. we are very close to the last days’ blessings

    • Jan

      Amen, so true! I talk to RCs online and they get nasty when protecting the false doctrines of their church! It is the same spirit as in the dark ages, it is just that nowadays it is not acceptable to behead or torture someone if they will not bow down to the pope and the RC system, unless you are ISIS, which is a whole other related topic to long to go into here. Stand firm Christians never never bow down to Rome!

      • Ed Garcia

        very good my friend; I have been sharing comments like this for years; I must say, I cannot help to feel I am alone in these beliefs about Rome; thank you for helping me to believe there are other people out that really do read their bibles… Blessing to my friend and stay strong

      • Kevin

        Not acceptable yet, but it will be again.

  • john654

    The only hope for the world is Jesus Christ and His Holy Catholic Church!

    • What do you base that on?

      • john654

        The teachings of Jesus Christ. He IS God you know!

        • Yes I believe He is. Can you refer me to where His teachings say that the only hope for the world is the Catholic Church?

          • john654

            Jesus Christ is the way the Truth and the Life, SO, who’s Church is it, is the Church His?

          • Acts 4:10-12: “Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
            This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
            Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

            This speaks very clearly that there is only salvation through Jesus Christ.

          • john654

            Who was it that spoke in Acts 4: 10-12?

          • Delitest

            Peter was speaking about Jesus. Why?

          • Kevin

            Peter was the “petros” of Matthew 16:18, the same unstable stone that denied Jesus with cursing. The same small stone that Jesus said to ” get thee behind me Satan!” Jesus was the Rock that was rejected. Jesus was the “Petra” of Matthew 16:18. Peter was the little unreliable stone but it was the “Petra” the rock Jesus that the church was built on. Psalms 62:1-2 ” Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is]my defense; I shall not be greatly moved. “

          • Kevin

            The true Church is His. The RCC is a counterfeit. I left the RCC just like millions of others who escaped the snare.

      • john654

        2000 years of Tradition and Scripture!

        • Delitest

          Yeah, tradition faired well for all the others in the bible (sarcasm).

        • knightsstrength

          Do you know much about early Christianity.
          North Africa was very heavily populated by Greeks with a huge learning area Great Library of Alexander.
          North Africia a believed in the true teachings of Christ
          Learn about Donatist and Traditors. May have to search Google with both terms to find Traditor.
          Who had the vision from Christ in answer to his prayers.
          The vision Constantine had was the Chi-Rho and put this symbol on all his soldiers shields under the Labarum.
          Constantine was a Christian on his visions. Under that sign the words were you shall conquer.
          Yes Constantine tried to unite the Churches, but the Papal had a big ear in Constantine’s ears, that he ended up persecuting the Donatist.
          He was said to have Leprosy and was Baptised to Catholic.Why should he need to convert when he was a Christian having visions from Christ, more than anyone at the time.
          Europe was Catholic, and did not like the spread of Donatist, and had lots of Persecutions under Augustine of Hippo, thanks to Constantine.
          To me Constantine betrayed Christ in giving away the Cross Christ had given him and taking up the Cross of the Catholics. The Cross we should be using is the Chi-Rho.
          Constantine is a Traditor alongside all the Bishops who joined the Catholic Church.
          Fortunately Donatism became the Eastern and Greek Orthodox churches.
          The first split (Schism) was the Donatist splitting from the Catholic Church only with the second with Luther.
          Donatist final blow came from Muslims slaughtering the remains Caucasion in North Africa, but lives on with Eastern and Greek Orthodox Churches.

          I still wonder who the Ebonite Priest was that said Muhammad was a prophet. To me he was belonging to what we know as the Catholic Church,

          This is the only Monastery under protection of Muhammad Saint Catherine’s Monastery. The Ashtiname of Muhammad, known as the Covenant of the Holy Prophet Muhammad.

          Mary is mentioned 34 times in the Quran, even mentioned by name more than Muhammad.

          Did you know Muhammad was raised amongst mostly Christians and Jews in Mecca. His wife 15 years old was Christian as well as Waraka who were mostly around Muhammad when he had his visions at the age of 40. Those two converted to Islam. Muhammad could not read or write.
          Khadija was his first wife. Carbon dating the Quran from the London Library is said to be written during or before Muhammad. Remember he was 40 when having his first visions in cave with said Angel Gabriel, who never gave Muhammad the ability to read and write. All other prophets in the daylight. Why did Waraka write, as he was previously translating the Bible into different langues, and coming back to Carbon dating?

          Many times through history there had been parallels between Catholicism and Islam, even torture methods.

          I could go on and on even with genocides with the Catholic Church, even child abuse that rocks Churches today

          Study history and lots of things can be found

          Constantine’s Donation
          Donation of Pipin
          Even kings suffered under Pope’s

          • john654

            Wow, you sound like the heretics in the book of Acts. You must think Jesus is a liar and a lunatic.

            Your hate for the Eucharist is palpable.

            Peace, Joy, Love, Kindness, OBEDIENCE,

          • knightsstrength

            No just giving you history you lack

    • Katherine McChesney

      Your church is satans church.

      • john654

        That would be true if it was “My” church, It’s not!

    • Rick Lambert

      The only hope for the world is Jesus Christ, full stop. The catholic church is not the church of Jesus. It doesnt qualify as a Christian church. It is the church of the anti christ. God asks His people to ‘come out of her’ during these end times. I pray that His voice will be heard.

      • john654

        “The only hope for the world is Jesus Christ, full stop”.


        Peace, Joy, Love, Kindness, OBEDIENCE,
        John 654

        • Quote Investments LTD.

          Mathew 10:34

    • Ed Garcia

      the Catholic Church (their system) is the antichrist and the “image to the beast” are the Sunday worshiping protestant churches; if they do not wake up to God’s truth very soon, they will burn is the same fiery pit with all the other lost souls… That final day is coming very soon, READ YOUR BIBLE DILIGENTLY… blessings

  • The Lord is raising people untrammeled by mainline leadership to give the last warning message to a dying world.

  • The Protestants are foremost in pursuing unity with the papacy

    • Katherine McChesney

      NO….only the ones in the World and National Council of Churches.

      So, you proved you are completely misinformed. Typical of a brainwashed member of a death cult.

      • That’s the vast majority and getting bigger every day…

    • Delitest

      So, does the word remnant imply majority to you?

    • Quote Investments LTD.

      Unfortunately that is true. The principalities have infiltrated the priesthood (Caephus) and claim to be doing the good work while disguising the evil agenda. Preach but be clear

  • David Byers

    Funny how Protestant go on an on about the book of Revelations, yet it at the time of the reformation it was Protestants who wanted to get rid of the book of revelations. For me I hope the Catholic Church has little to do with the 500th anniversary of Luther’s revolt. Be polite, kind but not celibate the heretical teachings of the, now, many 1000’s Protestant “churches”.

    • I have never heard that the protestants wanted to get rid of the book of Revelation. The Catholic Church came with the counter reformation after, coming up with two new theories about interpreting prophecy (Futurism and preterism). This would help them to get rid of some of the prophecies that the protestants discovered regarding the Caholic Church. Sadly soon after that many protestants started to accept these theories as well, and already then the reconiliation process started slowly.
      The book of Revelation is one of the most important books for this time. Like it says in Revelation 1:1: “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass…” This book is revealing Jesus and revealing important prophecies by Jesus, that was to take place after this book was written. And it is addressed to His servants, with other words, Jesus’ followers.

      Revelation 1:3: “Blessed is he that reads, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.”

      It is interesting that the only books of the Bible that Jesus himself directly recommended us to read/study was the book of Revelation (See 22:7), and the book of Daniel. (Matt 24:15).

      To me it is also alarming that the Catholic Church and the Protestant Churches will “commemorate” together. It’s quite strange. I belive though it is a fullfilment of Revelation 13.
      Here is an updated and more complete version on this topic: http://www.empowermissions.org/media/papacy-revelation-13-the-world-is-wondering/

      The Pope will take part at the beginning of the commemoration of the reformation already this year, October 31 in Sweden.

      May God help us to understand the times we are living in, and that His coming is very very soon, so we can be prepared on that day.

      • David Byers

        Maybe I should have more specific. Not so much Protestents in general but Martin Luther came close to removing Revelation, Hebrews, James from his Bible.

        Many Catholic are not happy with celebrating The Great Revolt.

      • Quote Investments LTD.

        Even without the Revelations, true TRUTH seekers can read (Numbers 16,17,18,19) and (Daniel 7) and (Mathew 24,25) and see all of the signs and atrocities that are occurring today as clear indications of Christ impending judgement day !

    • Katherine McChesney

      What nonsense. And the Book of Revelation is not plural. You show your ignorance by pluralizing it. But, that is typical of you Roman Catholic. YOu lie at the drop of a hat.

  • George

    movie: the bride and beast of babylon.

  • Lidia Cristina

    Perhaps you would see differently if you read The Lamb’s Supper by Scott Hahn – a former Protestant. Perhaps if you considered that your interpretation of prophecy (as mine) has come with presuppositions, not necessarily accuracy. Nero certainly fit the Antichrist label as did pagan Rome for the early Church martyrs.

    We have been fed on 500 year old biases by men that increasingly interpreted Scripture as each wanted and split Protestant churches more and more (300 divisions in the first 80 years, as I recall reading in seminary studies, now over 30,000 some say).

    Rebellion is ugly. We are all guilty. Stubborn people won’t bow to the King if we can’t even unite here under earthly authority. It is something we should face. It is what caused generations of blood battles in Europe and raised new America against a king.

    Read the Old Testament again with clear, prayerful eyes; see how strongly the symbolism, liturgy and apologetics of the Catholic Church follow it. Catholic Answers has refuted, it seems successfully, each Protestant challenge.

    You will be surprised as I was that this is not the sadly, culturally-changing theology of Protestantism. It is solid, referring carefully to scriptures to the shock of Protestants – the uncomfortable verses usually avoided.

    The Mass still uses pretty well the same process and words as the Early Church fathers – and it’s the only Church that is open 7 days a week in celebration of Christ’s sacrifice. It is consistently faithful and globally visible despite human failures throughout. It stands for the highest expectations of Biblical authority, e.g. the sacredness of life, care of the poor, etc.

    If God was not in it, why is it still around, the Church that Christ built from the beginning? We are in for surprises, no doubt. If God is in this, we had better be joining and not fighting Him.

    • Jon

      Perhaps you should read, “50 Years in the Church of Rome: The Conversion of a Priest” by Charles Chiniquy. Your assumption that the RC church has not undergone evolution of doctrine and has maintained the same basic beliefs since its inception is a statement of historical ignorance. The mass was not always understood as a sacrifice, works of penance did not exist in the early church, the baptism of infants has no historical basis until around 200 A.D. Mary was not revered as she is now until around 400 A.D., and there existed no purgatory in RC doctrine until the Early Middle Ages. The RC church has been consistently evolved, more so in early times, and managed its doctrines over time. IT is not the best example of consistency at the very least. Protestants, as I am, may have many divisions, and im not saying I like it, but most of us agree on essential doctrines, the splits being more a matter of preference than belief. At the very least, all mainline protestant denominations hold that justification by faith alone in Christ alone is non-negotiable, a doctrine that Rome clearly rejected at the council of Trent in 1564. Therefore, I resist that and many other Roman doctrines that place tradition above scripture. To embrace Rome would be to deny the sufficiency of the work of Christ on the cross and hold to a faith+works system, and so the RC church remains, scripturally, a heretical church.

    • Katherine McChesney

      What a lie of satan. EVerything you Roman CAtholics do is evil, anti-Christ and satanic. You’re murderous history proves you are the death cult of all death cults.

  • Michael

    The very existence of Protestantism proves the divinity of the Catholic Church ; for there must have been dogmatic truth declared before it could be denied, and there could not have been dogmatic truth declared without authority. To protest against authority is to admit authority ; for the act of protest is the personal assertion of authority, the only difference between the Catholic and the Protestant (in regard to this one question of authority) being that the Catholic says it resides in the teaching Church, whereas the Protestant says it resides in his own mind.

    • Jon

      I would change your last statement to the following because it better fits the truthfulness of the matter: The difference between the Roman Catholic and the Protestant (in regard to authority) is that the RC church says it resides in their own teaching (especially their own traditions), whereas the Protestant says it resides in the Word of God and is careful in his own conscience to seek understanding of that Word, and not make the traditions of men the word of God.

    • faithINHim58

      The only Authority is Scriptures – According to the Bible – Yes it was put together while all church was together ( Universal Catholic ) but that doesn’t mean ‘Roman Catholics” own the Bible – The Bible was written by apostles THROUGH / BY God..,they were only an instrument to write it down. And only GOD is looking after keeping it as HE wants it to be kept for all to read. There is no Rosary spoken in it, or praying to Mary, or celibacy for priests or none of that. I know that is what the Roman Catholics leaders teaches you. Go to the Bible and employ the aid of the Holy Spirit to understand it.

      • Michael

        The printing press was not invented until the 15th Century, its ridiculous and self-refuting that God would leave the world without the bible for 15 centuries !!!!! not to mention the illiteracy rate !!!! The very existence of Protestantism proves the divinity of the Catholic Church ; for there must have been dogmatic truth declared before it could be denied, and there could not have been dogmatic truth declared without authority. To protest against authority is to admit authority ; for the act of protest is the personal assertion of authority, the only difference between the Catholic and the Protestant (in regard to this one question of authority) being that the Catholic says it resides in the teaching Church, whereas the Protestant says it resides in his own mind.

        • faithINHim58

          God saw to it that the information HE wanted all His creature to have was written down for all generations, AND, that it kept as He wanted us to read it today! no matter thru what means, IS what we have today, and Should be THE only book we go to for Wisdom. Catholics teach something else. And yes WE USED to be ‘universally catholics’ way them., all ruled by bishops and priests, etc. until they decided to ( as usual for man with power ) take control and call themselves god. The virgen Mary would roll on her grave, every time somebody prays to her – No one is to be worshiped but God Himself. Priests do can get married, if they so desired. UNLESS they are absolutely positive that they would WISH to remain celibate, it is up to them said Apostle Paul. So, it is useless all this rape and forced celibacy — for no reason. No works will save us and brings us to God. Only the Grace of God, brings us to His wisdom, and bring us salvation. Read your Bible. God bless.

        • Delitest

          Is it still ridiculous for God to “leave the world without the bible for 15(?) centuries” if God declared that would happen in His word.
          Although your estimations need correction because the (known) world at that time was not left completely without the bible. Learn about Waldenses, Huguenots, and others who distributed the bible while dressed in sackcloth and living in the Alps. And it wasn’t for 15 centuries, not sure how you came up with that assumption (unless you actually think that there was no way of keeping documentation until the invention of the printing press.)

          Revelation 11:3
          “And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.”

          1260 years (year/day principle in bible prophecy) God will give power to His two witnesses (the law & the prophets, or old and new testament)to prophesy in sackcloth (Waldenses, Huguenots, as well as others).

          538 AD -1798 AD

          538= Defeat of Ostrogoths by General Belesarius, the last of the three horns to be uprooted by the little horn Pope/Bishop of Rome (Daniel 7:8) The beginning of the “church/state power. Justinian’s decree giving state authority to the church.

          1798= The end of the church/state reign by the Roman Church. General Bertier of Napoleans army captures Pope Pius VI, and the pope dies while in captivity, bringing to an end the Papal rule with state backing.

          1260 years fulfilled.

      • Michael

        Ignatius lived from around A.D. 35 to 107. He was the third bishop of
        Antioch and tradition records that he was a disciple of the apostle John “Where the bishop is present, there is the
        Catholic Church” (To the Smyrnaeans 8:2). Thus, the second century of Christianity
        had scarcely begun when the name of the Catholic Church was already in use. Matthew wrote about seven years after Christ 7
        Mark wrote about ten years after Christ 10
        Luke about twentyfive years after Christ 25
        John about sixty-three years after Christ 63
        The Catholic religion had existed sixty-five years before the Bible was completed. Church was already on its fifth Pope. all the Apostles (except John} died martyrs for the Faith and never saw the cover of a Bible
        Another big problem for you:
        2 Peter 3:16 “In them there are some things hard to understand that the ignorant and unstable distort to their own destruction, just as they do the other scriptures.
        2Thess 2:15, “So then, brethren, stand firm, and hold the TRADITIONS that you have learned, whether by WORD or by LETTER of ours.”

        • Scott Sterling

          The Protestant Reformers were hardly ignorant and unstable. John Wycliffe was an English scholastic philosopher, theologian, Biblical translator, and seminary professor at Oxford. John Huss was a Czech priest, philosopher, Master at Charles University in Prague. John Calvin was a lawyer. William Farel was a college professor in Paris. Martin Luther received his bachelor degree in Biblical Studies and his doctorate in Theology, and was received into the senate of the theological faculty of the University of Wittenberg. The lead reformers were among the brightest and best-educated of their time.

          In Matthew 15 and Mark 7, Jesus rebukes the Pharisees for transgressing the commandments of God through their traditions. The Protestant Reformers realized that many traditions were practiced and taught in the church that went contrary to the Word of God and cried out against them. Paul would not have taught any traditions that were contrary to the scriptures.

    • Kevin

      Authority or dictatorship. Would you like me to read you a few statements from a Roman Catholic priest handbook, written by the RCC ?

  • faithINHim58

    This is the biggest lie: Just read. Revelation. Listen to NO one else – Only Scriptures. God wants NO ecumenical work of any sort….the tower of Babel he destroy and confuse the language to disperse people…NOT to unify them…All Christ believers form A Church yes. ( but it is NOT the Catholic church ). It is The Church of Christ, and His elected that only God gave Him from the beginning of time. The Pope is going to fix nothing. No men will fix nothing. We have our standards from God and few are following them. The only thing the pope is going to unite is ‘one world religion’ to hand over to antichrist. Do not count me in….!

    • Nm

      Amen..may God bless you and may more people come to know the truth

    • Katherine McChesney

      Ecumenism…is evil.

      The National Council of Churches and the World Council of Churches are in communion with the greatest evil institution on earth….the Roman Catholic death cult.

    • Quote Investments LTD.

      Amen, may we all keep the same courage and remain strong through these pressing times. May Caleb’s courage be like unto us all

  • Jesus and all of heaven prays John 17… may all the Church on earth join Him!

  • Katherine McChesney


  • Nancy Campbell

    Jews also were with Rome in killing Christians …keep reading THE BIBLE. Rome didnt like Jews either BUT they became one against we who believe in that Jesus Christ is The Son Of God…REMEMBER ??

  • Adam John Hawes

    The Day of the Lord
    But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 1 Thessalonians 5: 1- 4

  • Adam John Hawes

    Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
    Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
    Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’ ”
    “Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.” Revelation 14: 9-13

  • Nancy Campbell

    I do feel sorry for the new church goers. There is a new Spirit in the churches today… Its the spirit of antichrist. It all feels good to the new person going to church all the rap and rocking Jesus.. Its all a demon false spirit appealing to blinded people.. Lord no wonder Jesus died in the hands of EVIL RELIGIOUS MEN !!!

    • knightsstrength

      One forgets all have the Church inside each of us if we call on Christ’s name in prayer. A. Church is anywhere when two or more gather in Christ’s name and he will be there.

      We all believe that a Church is the building down the road and many Churches show their true selves in child abuse, allowing Muslim prayer inside Churches and the list goes on and on

  • Nancy Campbell

    The Church began in Jerusalem and when we all go home to GLORY we will be married to Christ and receive our reward in a GLORIFIED BODY.. The whole purpose was to reconcile us back to HIMSELF .. Not Rome !! Rome is not God nor Jesus Christ or Mary’s Church !! Im sure when they crucified Jesus , They did horrible things to Mary just the same… Do not allow anyone to FOOL YOU. Read The Word for yourself and ask The Holy Spirit to show you HIS TRUTH.
    Can anyone really Believe anything that comes from Man’s mouth today ?? Please just take a good look around.. why would a pope bless Islam anyway ??

  • knightsstrength

    When I see the number of Catholics celebrities come out against Trump there has to be something wrong.
    The number of Catholics, majority Catholics in Supreme Court, next Jews, 6 to 3 respectively
    Then the number of Catholics in White House under Obama is something wrong. Now we have Catholics, Protestants and Jew with commanding positions in the County Courts and what battles does Trump have

  • xLeroyNajatahnx

    Let me just say, you’ve got the Catholics doing their thing, and the Protestants doing their thing…but there’s always this animosity between the two. Honesty, it’s a huge load of garbage. I can definitely agree that the Protestant reformation was justified, but the continued division is unacceptable! Christianity has enough problems, but this is just stupid. “Catholics are cultists” “Catholics worship statues”…how dumb! Cults have compounds. Have you ever seen a secluded Catholic compound. No, because they’re NONEXISTENT! And about the statues…they’re representations, NOT literal! I’m not defending anyone. Heck, I’m barely a Christian as it is. I believe in God and I pray, that’s it. But one of my biggest pet peeves is when people think they have the right to criticize someone without acknowledging that they’re just as screwed up. Catholics and Protestants are no better than each other, and they’re no more legit in worshipping God than each other. The Bible says that “a house divided against itself will not stand”. So according to the Bible, the WORD OF GOD, if Christians continue this animosity, the entire religion is doomed. “Oh, but Catholics aren’t part of Christianity”. I’ve got news, the Protestants were Catholics before they broke off. Christianity is believing in and worshipping the one true God.
    I took this opportunity to vent about something that gets me fired up whenever I think about it. I’m not apologetic about my feelings towards pious Christians, and I’m willing to admit when I’m wrong, but only when hard evidence is shown. Thank you for this opportunity and God Bless everyone!😀

    • Sandy Kisner

      I understand your feelings you expressed here. I was once there myself. I rejoice now in knowledge from studying the Bible. Not many “Christians” study the Bible. They go to church once a week and say grace at the table but not many actually work on a one on one relationship with their Creator. I am amazed all the time when I read something in the Bible that I’ve read so many times before and didn’t catch the meaning until then! I’ve learned that God reveals to us what we need to know when we are ready for it. So, don’t give up and just pick up the Good Book and keep reading or pick a subject and find every verse that even mentions that subject and see what you learn. I have read a book at least 2 times now and reading it again because I learn a lot from it and because it keeps referring me to Scripture. It’s called “The Great Controversy” by E G White. She is an inspired writer that is the most published writer in the world yet few people know of her. I hope you will take the time to read it also. I will be praying for your spiritual growth.

  • Quote Investments LTD.

    Ohh how much we could learn from the stories of Korah (Numbers 16,17.18) and Caephus were dressed as if we knew the law, but transgressed it in front of Truth (Leviticus 10:6, Mathew 26:65). This is exactly what is happening today and we must not let the signs spoken by CHRIST himself pass us by. Great tribulation is to come, but lets all pray for strength to endure. Amen

  • Katanggellon

    The beast which symbolizes the Papacy is the Antichrist. This means that everything about the Papacy and what it represents is the exact opposite of Christ; the antithesis of truth and life. This also means that any doctrine or belief espoused by the Roman Catholic Church is false. Time to examine whether we are part of a system, maybe your church or group, whose beliefs or doctrines may have their origin in the Catholic church. Look at your beliefs or creed: baptism (immersion or infant), salvation (grace or works), sabbath (Saturday or Sunday), Godhead (trinity or not), worship (idols or none), forgiveness (priest or Christ above), and a lot more… There is nothing true in Catholicism. Everything about it is downright false, unbiblical, antichrist!

  • janjello

    Oh get over it. This is ridiculous.

  • Yvonne Ivicic Wornell


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